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Originally Posted by The_Cheat
I never said they were going to hell. Sure, there are gay Christians, just like there are lying christians, there are cheating christians etc. The issue is just that gay christians dont recognize that homosexuality is clearly defined by the bible is a sin.
You're not born gay, but homosexuality is a disorder.
I strongly disagree that homosexuality is God-given, and I don't understand that last part of your sentence. Do you agree that the only way to salvation is through Christ alone and that we are saved by grace alone, not by works?
Sure we do, everyone "throws their views" on America. You have utterly misconstrued what I'm saying. I'm condeming matthew's act as being sinful and hateful, saying that gays will use his stupid reaction to point out all their supposed persecution in todays world and they can use that to victimize themselves.
Eh, you're right. I take back my statement. You beat me... :blink:
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Hmm.. homoesexuality is a disorder? So those gay Christians really don't have a choice to be straight or not. Even if some of them may be extremely good Christian workers, they are still "damned" because they are gay. And please, don't give me that BS that "I didn't say that" because really, you did. How else can I explicate your post except "Don't be gay or else.." You're making it seem as if they are mentally retarded which is horrible.
It depresses me how Christians look down upon gays. Although the main message of the bible is to "love one another as you would love yourself", clearly, people still don't accept some certain groups. How would you know if homosexuality was not "God-given?" How would you know if homosexuality was something you are born with? Have you ever been a homosexual?
"Sure, there are gay Christians, just like there are lying christians, there are cheating christians etc. The issue is just that gay christians dont recognize that homosexuality is clearly defined by the bible is a sin."
Because you clearly don't understand gays yourself, you belittle gay Christians to the worst possible kind? Do you honestly believe they "want" to be gay? Althought you say that gay Christians don't recognize that homosexulaity is a sin, you really don't even know what it means to be gay. Oh and I have yet to find in the Bible "Being gay is bad". Are you sure that's the Bible? or the Church talking?
Really, I've heard so many arguements that being gay is bad, but not one homophobe has given a coherent reason as to why it's such a horrible "sin". Even if it's believed that love is between "man or woman", who are you to put a limit on love? Love is expendable. I was taught to "Love my neighbor as myself", so really, me believing in the acceptance of gays, to me, is hardly a sin. If one man finds love within another man, or a woman in another woman, why restrict them? Do you only view the "hot sex" side of gays? or can you look deeper, so far as an intimate relationship?
All these statements about the "gay" factor errupting in society are made by extremists insecure about their "masculinity" specificially.
Why not just accept them? Accept them... as people... or in your lingo,
as Christians
oh and btw I'm Catholic
To everyone: If you must, as a rebuttle or "flame" go ahead and insult me with all your fear of me speaking the truth. Deny every possibility so that you too will not become gay because obviously, we're always afraid of the unknown. Hahaha please.
10-08-2006, 04:55 PM
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