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Old 03-04-2005, 04:11 AM
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second off, you def. break a sweat while marching. band camp is one of the toughest weeks of your life, but what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. at my school, we're not allowed to have band camp on the field. we practice on a black parking lot. not to mention its on a hill
Okay... you break a sweat working out so should that be considered a sport?!?
Last I checked, working out involves activities such as running, bike riding, swimming, and weight lifting, which are all sports.

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Old 03-04-2005, 04:49 AM
eh.. no band isnt a sport... lol i play the trumpet myself.. and yeah.. i really dont think it takes alot of... exercising.. or useage of muscles... cept for ur arms.. and a diaphram.. lol

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Old 03-04-2005, 05:01 AM
First of all:

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Sport: 1. a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively
Knowing the definition of a sport then, we can then review marching band.

A. It is a physical activity, you march (which isn't as easy as it sounds), sometimes run. Additionally, you are can be carrying a 20 pound instrument around you. Not to mention the sit ups, laps, pull ups, and exercise we do as well.
B. It has rules: You have to dig and roll, not being able to make your body bounce, but "glide" through" to be able to play while in motion. You have to follow the drill, and apply more rules assigned at the competition
C. You can compete with other schools.

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You are considered and extra curricular activity that just does demonstrations for us real athletes involved in actual sports!
"Real athletes" my ass. Be rude, and I will be rude to you.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:04 AM
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First of all:

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Sport: 1. a. Physical activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively
Knowing the definition of a sport then, we can then review marching band.

A. It is a physical activity, you march (which isn't as easy as it sounds), sometimes run. Additionally, you are can be carrying a 20 pound instrument around you. Not to mention the sit ups, laps, pull ups, and exercise we do as well.
B. It has rules: You have to dig and roll, not being able to make your body bounce, but "glide" through" to be able to play while in motion. You have to follow the drill, and apply more rules assigned at the competition
C. You can compete with other schools.

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You are considered and extra curricular activity that just does demonstrations for us real athletes involved in actual sports!
"Real athletes" my ass. Be rude, and I will be rude to you.
Too awesome. I should have looked up the definition of a spport before, lol. ::bow::

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They usually exist to entertain or educate a spectating audience, or, in the case of cheerleading, to coerce audience enthusiasm and participation for an athletic team that is engaged in competition.
So you're saying "real sports" aren't meant to entertain or educate a spectating audience? "Real sports" don't encourage enthusiam or participation? That's odd.

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the purpose of an athletic activity.
Well, since it isn't crowd entertainment, what is the purpose of "real sports", in your opinion?

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While you talk about your lovely "Extra Curricular Activity" you still dont show how it is a sport!
She just defined it as a sport. I'd like to hear your explanation on why it isn't.

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Old 03-04-2005, 05:05 AM
I don't consider it a sport but it counts a physical education credit at my high school.
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Old 03-04-2005, 05:09 AM
i don't know if this has alreay been mentioned, but marching bands have competition and rankings, just like how sports compete against each other in different levels of competition.

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Old 03-04-2005, 02:25 PM
Okay... lots of things that you do outside make you sweat and are hard work but that doesnt make them a sport.

What you do is band is you perform and entertain the crowd at half time during the football games. You have a class that you learn all of this in. So not only is band considered an Academic Study, but it is also just considered an extra curricular activity that you do for fun. Thats why you can play other actual sports while your in band and in not be such a big deal!

I understand that you do go out and do competitions and which down here they are awesome, but thats just you working over time to see if what your band director did was worth it and if you are actually good or not.

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Old 03-04-2005, 06:29 PM
So, let me get this straight. Band isn't a sport in your opinion because we learn it in a class, we perform at football games, and it isn't a big deal to do marching band while doing "real sports". And you're saying are competitions are just us working overtime to see if we're good.

Yeah, that's a bit incorrect.

In gym class, we learn about volleyball, football, soccer, etc. We have to learn how to play, know the rules, and then play the game. But since we learn about sports in gym class, I guess none of them are sports.

Football players perform at football games. I guess that isn't a sport.

It is a pretty big deal to play a sport while in marching band, seeing as it isn't allowed in our high school. So let's see. By your definition, doing extracurricular activities and "real sports" isn't a big deal. And by the school rules, you have no time to do "real sports" if you do marching band. I guess it must be a sport, if it's such a big deal.

Would you consider soccer scrimages as working overtime? Because you're playing just to see if you're good or not and seeing if what your coach did was worth it. And intermurals? Are those not "real sports" because it's just playing "overtime"?

Besides, marching band doesn't work "overtime". Working overtime implies that the action being done isn't necessary. Competitions are necessary. Therefore, competitions are not working "overtime".

You still didn't answer my question on the purpose of "real sports".

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Old 03-04-2005, 10:07 PM
in my high school [or where i used to go] if your in band....it's considered as a sport.

here are some things my friends that are in band do:
--walk up and down the football stadium like 5 times in one practice and then 5 more with instrument
--they have to be after school for at least an extra 2hrs and more on weekends
--they're given a P.E. credit for it, so no reg. P.E. for them
--they've got to make it sound really really awesome for the games! otherwise people would lose interest....and they have to keep their teams' spirits high
--if people think that band isn't a sport because you don't compete......i'd recomment you watch DRUMLINE.....that might help you a bit.

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Old 03-05-2005, 02:19 AM
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okay so this isnt a lets discuss the nature of being a band geek it was explain how band is a sport. While you talk about your lovely "Extra Curricular Activity" you still dont show how it is a sport!

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second off, you def. break a sweat while marching. band camp is one of the toughest weeks of your life, but what doesn't kill you, only makes you stronger. at my school, we're not allowed to have band camp on the field. we practice on a black parking lot. not to mention its on a hill
Okay... you break a sweat working out so should that be considered a sport?!?

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at my school, after 4 yrs. of music, you recieve a varsity letter. thats right, a varsity letter, to go on your varsity jacket...
You can get a varsity letter for being the equipment manager!
if you can get a varsity letter for golf or rifle, and they consider them "sports" then band is def. a sport. if cheerleading is a sport, then so is band.

i'd like to see you try and glide across the field, playing a 20 lb instrument after the football team has dug it all up...

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